SoundBalming with Dr. LaMarr Darnell Shields

Spiritual Evolution with Uma Shankari

May 18, 2020 Uma Shankari
SoundBalming with Dr. LaMarr Darnell Shields
Spiritual Evolution with Uma Shankari
Show Notes Transcript

With self-effacing humor and refreshing candor, Uma Shankari examines her  Spiritual Evolution from her childhood in India to her arrival in the United States.  
What she uncovers are familiar and all too common distortions that shaped her view of about eating healthy, and about the spiritual evolution of our species.

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Speaker 1:

Hey everybody. Welcome to sound bombing. I created this show for people who want to experience a radical life changing journey through the sounds of my diverse guests. I hope that each sound you hear on this show will strengthen your faith, encourage your dreams and challenge you to awaken the greatness within you

Speaker 2:

[inaudible] into a journey which along the way will bring to you new color, new dimension, new value.

Speaker 1:

Good morning, good afternoon, good evening, sound bombing community. Before we began, I want to just take a deep breath and inhale and I'm going to exhale and let it go. That is the breath of life that says that you are alive and I'm so grateful that you're joining me here in the bomb shelter for another exciting edition of sound bomber. You all can hear by the sound of my voice. I am just always so excited that you all find that your time and taking time to spend with me in the bomb shelter. Here are our engineers and our producers. We're so grateful that you log on. We're grateful that you are sending us emails and we think we're grateful that you're sending us questions. And as always, again, if there's some guests that you want us to have on the show, please, please, please send us an email and let me know. Again, my website is dr lds.com. That's D R L D s.com. Dr. Larry David, Sam or dr Lamar Darnell shields, have you look at it, doctor lds.com. Send me an email, check out the things that I'm doing. Unfortunately, I've not been on the road. You all know I travel a lot speaking and doing what I'm passionate and I love. But you know, I've been grounded like most people. So we're turning with turning and tuning into virtual learning and distance learning. And so I'm so grateful for technology. Uh, if you listen to the show last week, you, you were in for a treat we had on Brendan Murphy all the way from Australia and Brendan, you know, talk to us about, uh, about our DNA and not DNA because he's looking to, to solve a or not because he's trying to find out are you the baby daddy or the baby's mama? No, he talked about spiritual DNA and understanding our spirits and our bodies and I learned so much about DNA activation. So I want to thank Brendan from a man from the land down under who came in in a bomb shelter. It was really early for me and late for him, but we worked it out. And so again, our, I always talk about you all and your safety. Please practice a physical distancing, not social distancing. That's a whole nother thing because we want to stay social. We are social creatures by nature, but we want to practice physical distancing and that is a dissonance. And so again, I am not practicing social distancing because I am in the studio and I have somebody with me and before I bring up the person who is joining me today, I want you to sit back, relax, take a deep breath, inhale and less get this party started. Soundbar because most people in modern world have resigned themselves to a cliche existence, indulging and endless distractions. They go through life with a minimal pseudo faith and avoid grasping the emptiness of their lives. There are endlessly haunted by the shallowness of their relationships, neurotic issues, and inaccessible loneliness. And yet there's so much more to us as a species that what we really know you and I carry the most mysterious and magnificent qualities when within us imaginable. Yet we unknowingly guard and protect the gift that is our souls from the world. It's so easy for us to feel meaningless when we perceive ourselves as mere cogs in society's machines. The truth is that we are much more than slaves of nine to five jobs. We are capable of creating deeply meaningful, mystical and fulfilling lives. We are capable of finding our true calling. Well, my next guest Jess did that, or my next guest did just that, however you want to say it. Alma Shankari. Alma was born and brought up in India. She moved to the U S in 1997 to pursue her master's degree in computer science. She then moved to what I feel is the greatest city on a planet, my home Chicago, to pursue her career in the financial industry as a computer engineer while having a thriving career at a top firm in management. She had a spiritual awakening in 2012 and in 2014 she quit her job to reassess her life while she thought she would return to the corporate world. It never happened since then. She started a small plant based fool business. She's written, several taught people to hear their body through a plant based diet, has recently become an artist who creates galactic sound and light art. But her Seminole work is the lion's wisdom, a channel texts toward awakening human consciousness, embracing our oneness with the human heart in this channel text a wise line distraught by the condition of the world. And this is its people to do as a human spirit about the part we all play in creating and preserving balance and harmony. I want to welcome Ooma to the show. Welcome Ooma. How are you?

Speaker 3:

I'm good, thank you Lamar. Thank you for having me here and I'm really excited and thank you for a thorough explanation of all that I do right now. So thank you. Okay,

Speaker 1:

Alma, you are doing some amazing things. So I wanted to give you that, uh, opera. I wanted to, I wanted to really elevate the work that you're doing because again, I read a lot of things that you were doing. I actually tapped into the book this morning, so I have some questions about that. But before we get into the work. My, one of my former roommates when I moved here in Baltimore is from India. Her name is Shea. Her name is Shaikha, uh, Sharika Palais. And I used to love the story that Rayco would tell about coming from Indiana. I went to Grambling and we have a partnership with India called Gandhi gram. And so I almost had an opportunity to go to India, but I think at the time, in the late, it was the late eighties, early nineties, I think that there was a war or something going on that didn't allow, they didn't allow students, uh, from this country to go there. So before we get into your work, tell me about your transition from India to the United States. What was that like?

Speaker 3:

Well, you know, I would say it was very funny. Um, I tend to share the story with a lot of people and they end up laughing so hard that it's, you know, um, and I haven't shared it in a long time, so it's a good memory is coming back. So when I came to us, I had never boarded a plane. Uh, I lived in a big city and I was, you know, I was a regular middle class Indian family growing up in the eighties and nineties. So really not a lot of, you know, exposure to, um, what we call, uh, what we think is very normal in the Western world. So, uh, when I was young, um, when I relatives would come from small towns to visit us, we would go to the airport, um, stand outside the airport. There will be the fencing and the sit and stare at the airplanes. That was, um, something that I did when I was growing up. So I never thought I would board a plane in my life. And here I was for the first time, uh, coming to Chicago from a hundred degree weather. And, uh, all the people that I knew, the people that I knew and reached out in the us would move to the U S from India said, you need to buy everything you need. So I had about three jackets on me, um, and sitting in an airplane, um, not knowing how to, you know, get on an escalator with a heavy bag. Um, and, uh, finally was transitioning through Chicago to go to st Louis where I didn't know how to get a cart to load my luggage, which w which weighed more than me and I was dragging it on the, on the floor. And this lady stopped me and helped me put it on a cart because I, I just didn't know. And Chicago was as big as the city I lived in and I didn't know where to go. And I was up, the escalators really lost. And I went to a lady who is from the South side and I went and asked her, Hey, how do I go here? And she told me, and I couldn't understand American English and to put it on top of it. Yeah. The South side, you know, sort of like the slang it top on top of it. And it was one interesting, um, experience, you know, and I had everything from, uh, Curry powder to not cans to oil to you name it, plus the three jackets I was wearing and I was hot as hell. And somehow I landed in the st Louis airport. I didn't even know that I had to catch another flight from Chicago to st Louis because I didn't know the difference between Chicago and st Louis. And today I have traveled about close to 30.

Speaker 1:

I love those stories. Ooma I did a, I do a storytelling series called shortcuts and it's a series where basically, um, we've, we created an opportunity for people in particular people of color, like yourself who share a story about whatever the theme is. And I mean, we've done stories for teachers, for women, we've done stories for the LGBTQ community, but we did one called coming to America and, and it was about immigrants who migrated to this country. And I'm listening to you and I'm laughing because I remember one of the storytellers who was from Belize who was so excited to come to America and just like you, she had all the spite. And it's funny cause I'm, I love Indian food. That's a whole nother conversation. So I'm smelling as you're talking, I'm smelling the Curry, I'm looking at everything that you have. And so I think about Rockelle who's from Belize and she gets off this plane and she gets to the escalator and she stands there. And the crowds, people didn't get this because the people she was talking to were from this country. So she stands at the escalator and she wonders what the hell am I supposed to do? Why are these stairs moving? They should not, they should not be moving. And so to hear you say that you got there and then you said the South side with the slang, cause I'm from the South side of Chicago, so I'm just looking at you. I'm fucking up. I'm thinking of coming to America was just came on recently. I'm thinking of all of these individuals who are from other countries. But that's a great, that's a great story. And I'm sure that story really, really started you on your own personal journey, uh, as it relates to your spiritual growth coming to another country. Uh, what that was like being a, being a person who was a person of color, but look from, look different from the people of color on the South side of Chicago and things of that nature. So I really, really appreciate that. So in, in the introduction I talked about, um, I talked about you having this great career, uh, in the field that you were in. And then all of a sudden in 2012 you had an awakening that led you to leave corporate America. Now I what I do understand, let me just back up. I understand Indian culture. I understand African coaching. What I mean is you're turning to your parents and saying, I'm leaving this field. You know, I'm going home with this to travel to do this. It's like my Nigerian friends, like I have a Nigerian friend. She says, well, my brother is a doctor. My sister is a lawyer and I'm a comedian and I'm the black sheep of the family. So talk to me in 2012 what actually happened during that time when you had to shift?

Speaker 3:

Yes. Even before 2012, I'll, I'll tell you one thing. People come to me and they say, Oh my God, Indians are so smart. And they think it is a really, it's a compliment to me. It's not, um, it's not, uh, it's not to belittle someone that is saying that I really don't think any particular community or culture can be singularly, uh, smarter or outsmart anybody. That's a, that's a very bleak world we live in. And growing up in the Indian culture, I can only tell you the pressure kids get from their parents to be the best, to be an engineer, to be a doctor, to be this or that. And it really stilts the growth of the child in its creativity. And it's, it's a, it's a really sorry state of the world we live in. And when I hear that it really, um, um, I hate to say it, but this is how I, it irritates me. People think I should be so jumping out of joy, but they're saying that the Indian culture is such a smart culture. There are a lot of smart people in Indian culture. Don't get me wrong, but that doesn't come from education alone. Education is just something that you get slapped on because you are expected to do it. So, um, to go into what you're asking, you know, my mom who passed away last year has always been very, uh, very courageous, very uh, a very enterprising, a woman. So when I left for Chicago or the U S she was like, yep, you can go. But my dad on the other hand was cared because it was, you know, he, he didn't know how to react to it. And my mom was like, you go, you're good. And when I left my job, it's so funny, my dad was the first one to say, well, why? He was so, he, he, he, my dad has a hard time breaking the mold. So when I had to leave India, I was breaking the mold. When I was leaving the job, I had to break the mold. And my mom on the other hand, for some reason, she knew like no matter what I, I know how to take care of myself. She, she intuitively, she knew it. So when I left my job, I sat with my dad and I explained it to him over and over. And finally I realized he didn't want to like really understand it. He just wanted his daughter back in that high paying job. You know, just really comfortable. And it comes from a place of fear of what her daughter's going to do without a paycheck. And it also comes with the sort of like, you know, in India, the, there's this whole culture of, you know, to, to tell others like how, what your child is doing and just be proud of it. And I think that is, that is coming from the lack within ourselves that we have to pride ourself through our children. You know, it's good to have pride for our children regardless of what they do, but to be proud of our children just because he or she went to Harvard or he or she is a doctor and, and so what if someone is a janitor that the mother or the father's not supposed to be proud of them? It's sort of like that kind of culture. It's, it's really hard for me to digest. But, so my dad has a really hard time, so I have a very strong connection with my dad. And I had, I was very scared. Just tell my dad, there's a, once I got through it, I just looked at him, I thought, you know what? I really don't care. I don't care what you think. I love you, but I don't care what you think because you are your own personal. I'm my own person and I have to cut this codependency that we have that you need to derive, uh, something from me and I need to derive something from you. I didn't tell that to him explicitly, but that is where I came to a point and I stopped caring. What he thought about me. And it also eventually led me. But you know, when you stop something, it doesn't just stop you from just with the relationship with your father. It just stops a whole bunch of things that you go into agreement with culturally. So I literally like, I cut it off and I started my rebelliousness even even earlier because I have remained single in an Indian community where, uh, you know, being married as such a huge thing.

Speaker 1:

I know I've gone to an Indian wedding and believe me, you all know how to, as a kid say, turn up. Yes, you do. You missing out on, are you missing out on all of that? What is wrong with you? I have

Speaker 3:

broken a lot of things and you know, breaking those rules were not just for just for the pure sake rebelling. All those breaking of the rules came from my own intuitiveness on what I wanted. And it was just the awakening, uh, to myself rather than a daughter of someone or, um, or a sister of someone or from an Indian culture. I really want to break this identity, the identity that we all have with a country or a race or a language, because ultimately we are a divine being.

Speaker 1:

So where do you, where do you get that spirit from? That rebellious. So because you're going against not only just your mother, I mean not only against your father, but you're going against a culture who tells little Brown girls like you that you can't do those things, that you should be married, that you should have kids, you should get a career in a certain field. We know there's certain fields that folks from Indian culture go to. Where does that rebellious soul come from? And then how is it, is it the soul or is it the ego? And can you sort of explain the difference between the two though?

Speaker 3:

I will. You know, one of the things I really, um, I really, uh, think is, I think I got the best from both my parents. Uh, my mom was extremely rebellious. You know, she lived her life the way she wanted to. And I think a lot of, um, families don't do this, but my parents had a separate bank account and my mom worked as a teacher. She literally knew the entire city in the back of her hand. Um, so besides, and, and my dad was sort of like the opposite, you know, uh, he never really wanted to rebel against anything. He was such a conformist. Um, but I don't think it's either one. What really happened is it happened to me organically rather than saying, you know, it's the ego that, that it or the soul that did it. I think my path had been paid for me. I was not a rebellious child when I was younger. Uh, although my mom would disagree if she would arrive. Uh, in my perception I was a conformance to because my sisters went and did everything that they wanted to do. I never did. I followed exactly the rules that were played by. But one thing I was sure as, but the minute I knew that I wanted to come to the U S like one of my friends was writing for GRE and she, I asked her, what are you doing? And she said, I'm going to the U S and immediately decided I was coming here. It wasn't like trying to rebel or, or Oh my God, this is the ego. I think my soul had a plan for me. And when I came to the U S it was a very lonely existence for me. It was not an easy existence. Immigrants go through a lot of depression, a lot of isolation, a lot of separation because they don't know how to really merge within the community because there's not very many outlets. So for me, I would say it was probably a soul journey because who I am today, I mean at the core of, I still have a compassionate heart, like I was young, but I think I mowed a silly ant and much more stronger than I ever have been in land, tire life. And that is partly my soul growth and evolution. And also when you're really strong in your spiritual evolution, it doesn't matter what anybody is thinking, it just you just trust what is being brought to you. And there is when something is brought to you, there's an elation within you and there's no doubt in your mind that this has come to you for another reason than just for the purpose of like, you know, just satisfying some agenda.

Speaker 1:

So I heard you mentioned two words Ooma so in spirit, do you think so and spirit are separate or do you find them as one in the same?

Speaker 3:

I think everything is one, I think. But because we live in such a three dimensional world, we need to understand the different aspects of ourselves so that when it comes together as one we understand it. So it's a path. It's not like, you know, even though I have a body and I have a soul, you know, we may say that they are separate, but in the end of the day you were just talking about your previous guest. Your soul is dissolved in every single cell of your body, in the DNA of your body. It is everywhere. But if you don't tell someone the concept of soul and a body, people are not going to get it. So I think we need to, for the sake of understanding a spirit and a soul and a body are separate, but we are going into the space of awakening, but that we are coming, uh, as raised as culture, as language, as one. So everything has to come together as one, then our soul spirit and body also has to be one.

Speaker 1:

Hmm. So as you, as you came along your journey or what you might have called your awakening, you know, two things, where did it lead you and what's the most important thing you've learned about yourself during this journey?

Speaker 3:

You know, that's a very good question. I'm going to take you back even before it went 2012. I have been a spiritual person ever since I was younger. I didn't know it. I, I've been a clairvoyance since I was eight. Um, and there are several evidence to support it and I want to give, go deep into it. But in 2007, I had, I had something that came to me that was, I was able to, I got messages very clearly, audio, uh, audible messages, but in the form of thoughts that are very clear about people's relationships. And it freaked me out and I said, I don't want to know. I knew before people were going to separate or divorce, I knew that was going to happen and people call me to tell me that. And I had all been known a couple of weeks before that I was going to get a call and it was just really hard for me and I said, what? Whoever this is giving it to me, I don't want it. Stop it now. And it stopped. Literally it stopped like that. But what it is, is your spiritual, I don't know if I'm answering your question, so if not, please stop me. So basically what it was is like, you know, you are always given an opportunity to spiritually evolve. It doesn't happen at one moment. That one moment that really happened. It's very, you work, you, you, you were pushed to a level that it had to, you had to literally stop and say, okay, this is something very different from what has happened to me all my life. So, in, in, in 2007, that happened. It freaked me out. So for the next five years, I really wasn't contemplation about what had happened, who had given me that information that I knew. So clearly the three of my friends were going to either separate or divorce. Who was that? You know, I stayed in contemplation. And in 2012, I just got the message, why and how this comes about. And then the spiritual evolution just exploded for him. It just really exploded in the form of energy healing. And, uh, you know, energy healing was the first thing that I did. Uh, in 2012 that led me to really believe in myself as a divine being and the first step to Wyatt towards my own divinity. Um, but what elevated that conversation was, um, I was sitting on, uh, I, once I did a lot of energy healing and one day I was sitting and I was like, I need to understand love. I just spoke it out loud and I rented to Amazon. There was a book that was staring in my face. It was called the book of love. Um, and uh, it was a book by Paul Selig, uh, the book of love and creation. I literally, the reading of the book catapulted my divinity to a higher octane than I could ever have contemplated. I ever have understood the, the quantum nature of spirituality. When it hits you, it's very, it just shoves you, you know, not to hurt you, but to give you a jolt of like, what is really waiting for you on the other side, I don't think any of us can miss spiritual level leadership. Even if we are, we're probably not paying attention. That's the only thing. I don't know if I answered it.

Speaker 1:

No, you did. So it's talking about paying attention. What are some tools that are in your toolkit that you can share with our listeners that we, that we all have that we use to sort of tap into that sort of spiritual connection because I sort of, I had to feel the same way I created this show sound bombing to highlight. I think some of the high achievers, when I say high achievers, I'm not talking about people who are financially stable. I'm not talking about people who were making all this money, but I'm just saying they are in tune and connected to their gifts and they want to share them with others. What are some tools that you can share with our listeners to tap into that? And then the other part is what you talked about this worry fear. What do you do when you feel scared or overwhelmed by the spiritual guidance or the messages that are coming to you?

Speaker 3:

Got it. So first of all, I want to say there's no one cookie cutter way. The more we go into one cookie cutter way, that is where we're going to go back. But the three D three dimension and kind of trying to figure out how that works for that person that has to work for me. What is so amazing about spiritual journeys is it is being given to you. It is put on a golden platter and served to you. It is really about paying attention to what has been served you and to be honest with you, some of the things that are that are really amazing that we kind of mess is the worst things that happen in our life. The worst things that happen in our life sometimes become the best things for ourselves because you know, I would like to say we'll get up and do meditation every morning, but it's, it's not gonna. It's really not gonna jive for everybody. You know? For me, my evolution was really listening to something that was knocking at my door when I, in 2012 when I had the spiritual evolution, my guides were literally kicking my butt and say, you need to go and do spiritual. You have to go and do some body work. I was resisting at that point. I didn't even know what body work was. I could have easily said, this is some kind of thought and I could have let it go, but it was so strong for me, I, I thought, okay, I'm going to go and do some body work and I'm going to realize it's the most stupidest thing I have done in my life and I'll be done with it and I can move on with my three dimensional way of life. Guess what? That body work awakened my senses. So everybody's spiritual journey. Something is pushing you to do something, listen to your intuition, listen to something outside of yourself. Then it's trying to communicate with you because that is your first step towards evolution. And then along the way, someone or something could come and give you a tool, but unless you are present to yourself fully other things, what others are going to tell you is only going to become a tool. Just like, okay, read this book. Look at power point, okay, but they are only going to give you the, the what you need in a very linear fashion. Spiritual growth is an exponential and quantum jump. It is not a linear thing. That is why we need to stop looking at what is the tool that's going to give me. But if something is telling you that this is what feels right for me, then in the spiritual expansion, then start there. Start with what? A simple start with your intuition. Start with signs that keep coming to you. So you are your own guide. You are your own tool. Use yourself as a tool would be what I would say.

Speaker 1:

Well, I know one thing. What are several things that we agree on? But one thing that I know we agree on that I love and you love is good food. So you have been teaching people how to cook and we, you're talking about some of the tools. Let's talk about food. Why is the food we eat so important for our spiritual connection?

Speaker 3:

Okay. Um, I'm gonna, I'm gonna turn it around a little bit differently. Okay. I, for me, I was born through my mother who gave birth to me, but I think my other mother is my mother earth. And I think there's so much debate about like what is right for you to eat is meat eating right as plant based diet, right? You know what? We need to just relax. We need to just relax about all that. If we connect to the pulsing mother earth, her heartbeat, we will really understand what she is offering in the bounty of her basket. When she is offering some of the bounty of her basket. What she's offering to you is the right thing for you to eat. A mother will never serve a child that which is bad for the child and she would never deplete herself in doing so. That's the first and foremost we have to start eating from an ecological perspective, from an ecosystem perspective, not from the perspective of itself. So the whole point of what is right for a physical body is a three dimensional way of looking at it. That is why people say, well, my body requires this. This body requests that because we're not connected to mother earth, mother earth. Depending on where you are, she has automatically created a garden and a bounty for you to enjoy. Not to take, but to give what she take, what to take, what she gives you. That's the first and foremost. When you start from there, all this thing about like what is right for me, what right for you. I grew up all that is going to disappear because in your three dimensional way of eating, your physical body requires something that is true to your physical body. But when your physical body evolves into the quantum body, your quantum body requires something that is aligned with what the mother earth is offering you.

Speaker 1:

So I want you to, I want to stop you there for a second. I want you to explain to our audience the concept of quantum quantum body quantum physics. Cause you mentioned this word on several occasions and Brendan Murphy, who I had on recently, he discussed the words, I know what it actually means, but can you, can you impact that word for us? Could you say quantum body?

Speaker 3:

So I, you know, I in, in, in the latest book I'm writing, they call it a meta body. Okay. A physical body is something that is a karmic body. What does it mean? We have born for a lifetime after lifetime after lifetime rehab karma from lifetimes of living on this planet and met her body is something that does not carry those karmic balances. It is clear of that karmic balances. If you take Buddhism, it's called the Nirvana body. If you take Christianity, it's the Christ consciousness. If you take um, a Hinduism, it's called the Krishna consciousness. You know there's a term coined in every single religion, but what it is, is a pure state of consciousness in pure state of consciousness. You are not seeking something. What does natural to your organic state comes to you organically. It is not about chasing anymore. It is about being this, that being us, you know, when you are being the being us, teach us to you naturally and organically as to what it requires for you to live on this earth. Does it make sense? So go ahead.

Speaker 1:

No, no, it makes sense and it's interesting. That sort of leads me to my next question cause that's sort of has come up in your book, the lion's wisdom. Can you talk about the inspiration for writing this book? I know you said this was a book that was channeled. Discuss what that means and then also what was, what's your intention for writing this book and what do you expect people to walk away from after they put this book down?

Speaker 3:

Okay, so you know there's a lot of questions, but I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll answer you. I'll start from somewhere. I think it'll answer all the questions. So basically I'm not a writer. I never in, I never actively thought about writing. I've considered it all, it'll be nice to write, but I'm not a writer at all. If you give me to write an email, I have to think twice about like what I have to write.

Speaker 1:

I'm the same way. It takes me forever because the intent of the like picking up the phone is so much easier. You sent person email like, well I didn't really mean it that way, but you put these extra dots and you highlighted this and so I'm the same way when it comes to when it comes to email and also to writing, I enjoy it. I'm more of a speaker and move a poet, but I have to channel a different spirits, put things on paper so I can definitely identify with that.

Speaker 3:

Yeah. So you're, you, you nailed it. Lamar. You just nailed it because I am not a writer because for me it's always like, am I going to say the right thing? Is it going to come across? Even when writing an email to you, I'm like, I don't hope. I hope he doesn't, you know, there's so much in it. Um, but what happened is, you know, I was, I mentioned to you the book of love and creation. So the author of the book had, um, uh, had a seminar here in Chicago. So I went to be part of it and you know, I was, um, I stood up on the second day and I said, you know, what is my purpose? And the guides laughed and said, you know, you all want us to handover what your purpose is, understand that you are in the way of your own purpose. And I said, okay. All right. So I came home the next day. I said, okay, I'm just going to sit and meditate and believe it or not, I come from a Hindu background even though I'm not, I don't practice Hinduism, I don't practice any religion. I sat and I started meditating and that rabbi came through in my meditation and started speaking to me and I thought that was very interesting. So the next day I decided to meditate again and I started, um, I said, I'm going to put whatever words are coming through on paper and let's see what happens. So I started meditating. I, I got out of the meditation and started putting words on my, on the paper. Next thing I knew in like an hour, I had an entire chapter. I had no idea what I was writing. I didn't know what was going to come next. I just put my hand on the paper with my pen and started writing and it just kept flowing and flowing. In an hour, hour and a half, I had a chapter. So the next day, uh, at five o'clock in the morning, my forearms started tingling and I said, okay, why is the tingle I man, it's 5:00 AM in the morning. So I woke up and I said, you know what? I have a feeling I'm being asked to write. I sat the next day, I started writing 21 days every day, an hour and a half to two. I finished my first book, which is get to be published. And then the second book happened as I finished my first book, I needed time to just some downtime. I'm not right because even though I enjoyed the writing, it was also in some ways it was a little bit like, it was a lot to take in for me. And I had, uh, meanwhile friends had come to read my first book. They were just loving it. And I had said like, okay, I need some time off not to write. And I got a very resounding yes from my diets. And one day, sometime in a, you know, September, October timeframe, as I was reviewing the first book, I said, you know what? I may be ready to write the second book. And I didn't think right away, I thought a month or two months from now, the next morning hands are tingling, 5:00 AM in the morning. I was woken up and that's how the lions were. STEM came through and the lion's wisdom. See for me it's not about, you know, it's not about, how do I even say it, it's about really shifting the human consciousness. That is my primary goal. And as part of the lions was done, you know, once the book was at least less timber, I created a nonprofit, which is still not, it has still some more work to do, but I created, created a company called positively yours, the PA WSI positively yours, which is the last chapter in the line's wisdom to really serve humanity. For me, I, I, I am learning more about abundance. I would like to be abundant in a way that I am also able to give back to humanity for humanitarian causes where it's needed. And, um, also if you know, it doesn't have to be just in the form of money, it doesn't in the form of wisdom, it is in the form of art. It's in the form of, you know, a radio show, a podcast such as yours and whatever form that is. And I don't want to really contain it. This is all I'm going to do because my work has been evolving at such a fast rate even I don't know what it's going to go next and I have a certain roadmap but I don't have an end or a destination, if that makes sense for you.

Speaker 1:

It makes, it makes a lot of sense. You know, it was interesting when I was reading the excerpt from your book, the line's wisdom. I start to think of the movie, the life of PI and I was thinking about the life of PI in this tiger and then I was thinking of this Alliance. Is there any similarities that you feel between that particular film or that particular writing and the lion's wisdom of your over your beat book?

Speaker 3:

You know what, I haven't read the life of five, but I'll tell you what I have read though. Um, there is a book called Ishmael and I've read him his smile a while ago. Ishmael smile is a very amazing book on what it is about mother earth and what we have done. Um, uh, with mother earth. Then I think the author passed away. It's a book and people who have read my book, even though like for me, my channeling doesn't really know what's going to come, but some people have made the comment, it sounds like a smile in his smile. It's a, it's a gorilla. The teacher's a man on what life is in this book. The lion is inculcating his wisdom and what it is to live on other earth. He doesn't speak as a lion even though he speaks from his perspective, he really has a very balanced view of what it means to live and share this planet.

Speaker 1:

I know besides being a writer, you are an artists. Can you talk to me about galactic sound and light art? What actually is that?

Speaker 3:

Well Lamar, to be honest with you, I did not know what it is until it started coming to me. As part of the sixth book. I was told that I'm going to be downloading codes now even though I've written six books, I am just starting to get comfortable with channeled writing. As I'm getting comfortable with channeled writing. All of a sudden I hear I'm going to get codes and I was like, okay. I was, I was a little scared to be honest with you. So when the day when it came that I was supposed to download the codes, I sat and I was like petrified. And I said, you know what, uh, one thing I heard was this is going to be the method data. And I didn't know what they meant by metadata, my guides. So I said, okay, I'm a computer engineer. I know what a metadata means in terms of um, a heart desk. So I said, since I understand that, let's go. That's all I said. I put my pen on the paper and I had alphabet, which later I found out were low light languages, light language, alphabet. And it evolved into sound alphabets as well. And I gave it to one of, uh, a physicist and I said, do you know what this is? And she said, it seems to be light language. So one of the things I do is I don't go outside of my word and start to verify because the minute you start verifying, you're putting yourself in self doubt. I just allow whatever comes to come. So I started my artwork on December 23rd. By January, December 29, I knew intuitively I was supposed to go and start drawing. I went to the CVS around the corner, bought a bra, bought a drawing notebook, had a black marker and started drawing. And it literally an hour, I had five diagrams that were written that were drawn on a piece of paper and then it evolved into metallic colors, patterns. Then now live animals are coming through in my, so basically what this diagram is it, the black paper is our karma that needs to be the least. And the metallic is the light that comes into the image. And the patterns are actually what we, the, the sound that the universe contains, the pure consciousness contains, which is also called the Metta tones, which are coming through the artwork. So the artwork literally is a galactic method tonic, a metal tonic sound unlike art. And the soul was given to me as I was, um, downloading this work between January 2nd and today. I have done about 200 to 250 artwork. And you have to know one thing about me. I'm not an artist. I've never used a paintbrush and never used, uh, paints in my entire life. People who have seen this artwork are blown away because it seems like someone who has always known how to draw as drawing every step of the way. With the evolution of my work, I know exactly what to buy from the store, what colors to go and pick every single step of the way. As I'm attuned, I am, I am walked through. This is how gifts can be brought out from our physical sense. We don't have to go and learn something brand new, although we could. It doesn't mean that learning from outside is bad, but there's so much within us that has been unexplored, like mother earth, deep Travis's

Speaker 1:

and Alma is doing a good job of articulating this and I don't think I can even articulate it as great as she has, but even though she's articulating it as with the language that she has is beyond a language. You have to look at this artwork and experience it, um, is going to be on my page and it will be on her page, but it's everything that she says. You can really feel the vibration coming through. Just looking at it right now in front of the screen, the colors, the designs, you can feel your vibration being lifted and I encourage you all to check out her, her artwork. It's amazing. Boom. I can talk to you forever. You have definitely awakened something in me. I really appreciate you for spending some time with me, but before we get out of here, because I want our listeners to stay in contact with you, I want them to pick up copies of your book. I want them to see the great galactic sound and light art that you're doing. How can our listeners get in contact with you?

Speaker 3:

Um, you know, definitely go into my website, WW dot[inaudible] dot com which is U M E S H a N K a R i.com. And there should be a form for, for them to reach out to me. Otherwise they can literally drop me an email at[inaudible], at[inaudible] dot com[inaudible] dot com

Speaker 1:

now, before you get out of here, uh, we have to play what I call the super bomb questions and I have to let people know I did not send her these questions ahead of time and so she's going to respond as quickly as possible and I am going to start right now. You ready? All right, here we go. Alma, what is your favorite word?

Speaker 3:

Consciousness.

Speaker 1:

What is your favorite quote or spiritual verse?

Speaker 3:

Oh, I had to, uh, you know what? The person that comes to my mind does Nelson Mandela. It is about unity and consciousness. He stood for the upper thigh to end. That's what comes to me.

Speaker 1:

What's your superpower?

Speaker 3:

My superpower is being, uh, being in the physical body. Knowing that I can be in multiple dimensions.

Speaker 1:

What's your spirit animal?

Speaker 3:

My spirit animal is the lion.

Speaker 1:

I knew you were going to say that. What brings you to tears of joy?

Speaker 3:

Seeing humanity, uh, rights from what is to what can be,

Speaker 1:

what bring you to tears of sorrow,

Speaker 3:

a child being tortured or treated badly.

Speaker 1:

What do you wish you had more time to do?

Speaker 3:

Actually, no, I have a lot of time to do. I wish, um, you know, at the moment I won't be able to answer, but in normal times I always wish I had time to do more artwork. But now that we are in lockdown, I'm doing a lot of my artwork.

Speaker 1:

Okay. And which you all can check out on her site because it's amazing. Give me your three things you do in your morning routine. Just three things.

Speaker 3:

I wake up in the morning and do yoga for like an hour. I do celery juice in the morning after I do my yoga and once I complete that I sit and read an edit my sixth book, which is awakening the Buddha consciousness. And once I'm done with that I sit and do my drawings.

Speaker 1:

If you are in the miss America talent competition, what would your talent be?

Speaker 3:

My talent would be to embrace your body without having to flaunt it.

Speaker 1:

Ah, OMA, you are amazing people. I told you you were in for a treat today so thank you for tuning in. OMA, thanks for joining me today.

Speaker 3:

Thank you. Thank you so much Lamar. I appreciate it

Speaker 1:

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